The White House corrected the off the cuff remark from the long press conference. Just been channel hooping with various News outlets and what I can gather is that the Ukrainian public are just getting on normal Living , it would seem that the 24hr News channels are too blame for the So called tensions just like a certain plot for a James Bond movie with Johnathan Pryce as the TV mogul who wants too start a War for Ratings. Iranians being bombed at will??? Putin is serious about sabre-rattling and applying miitary pressure. The receiver is a version of the one fitted to the LRASM. During the Cold War it became traditional to test the resolve of an incoming new American president with a manufactured crisis. Land, they have plenty. To see all content on The Sun, please use the Site Map. Later versions have much better electronics and sensors developed with Israel. Whether hell succeed with his military distraction where General Galtieri failed with this strategy is open to question. It has a much wider capture angle. Even so, Ukraine's Defense Ministry said it was accelerating its plan to form reserve battalions, a move that would help it rapidly deploy 130,000 recruits to bolster its 246,000-strong armed forces. 'Our strength depends on preserving our unity and that includes unity within Ukraine. Australia just signed an agreement with UK Defense minister to dedicate Wharf and logistics to readily accommodate Royal Navy ships basing them selves there . It does not stop Russia interfering in/invading Ukraine. Im not entirely sure how/where you have Ur info ref Astutes having v limited Comms when dived from? He wasnt kissing his backside so much when he scrapped the intermediate range nuclear forces treaty! When the world is fully and singularly looking at that location. Former Russian President Dmitry Medvedev last week warned the United States that the hypersonic missiles would soon be close to NATO's shores. I would say that is far more annoying than Greta who actually tries her best to practice what she preaches. Purely theoretical, but just imagine Putin had deployed military units to Iraq in 2002/2003 as peacekeepers and to secure WMD. Normally theres maybe half a dozen ships of the coast of California waiting to be unloaded, last I heard it was over 70. The assessment put the number of rebels within Ukraine who are loyal to Moscow at 35,000 and estimated Russia has a further 3,000 military personnel within Kiev's territory. Putin might be doing maskirovka. Russia seized and annexed the Crimea peninsula from Ukraine in 2014 and considers areas around its coast to be Russian waters. Bit long in the tooth-just like David, CR!(says he who is about to turn 73). EFP is tripwire forces (and not many of them ie only 3 Battlegroups in total) to prevent Russian incursions into Poland, Lithuania, Latvia or rather to reassue the peoples of those countries they are not going to affect the Russo-Ukraine situaution. Final talks on NI post-Brexit deal as UK PM meets EU chief - No 10. The Defence Forces is monitoring a group of Russia warships which have been spotted acting unusually off the south of the country. But at various times four navy frigates were deployed. Sounds like we havent learned any lessons from history! To all and intents you could be correct, but heres the rub he is a dictator in all but name. Giles said some scenarios could involve long-range missile attacks or cyber-attacks targeting critical infrastructure. Forces would secure control of a canal that provided Crimea with fresh water supplies until Russia annexed the region and Ukraine stopped the flow, he said. Thats an oversight. https://www.army-technology.com/projects/land-based-future-local-area-air-defence-system-flaads-land/, Is Russia just grandstanding in some effort to remove the economic sanctions? [However] when youre up against a determined opponent on the battlefield you have to go close and personal with your enemy. Patrol ship HMS Tyne monitored two warships and an intelligence gathering vessel as they carried out replenishment operations with their supporting tanker. The ships have included a surfaced submarine, a destroyer, a corvette and a patrol ship along. Thanks Mark it just seems that the way that some outlets are reporting this ongoing story ,could in fact do more damage than good .As with some people on these threads ,that are goading eachother into what better weapons would do the most damage ,when the most destructive weapon is their Mouse/keyboard I know its just keyboard banter but my God theres some who really do want it too kick off. This is howRead more , Thats reassuring.Thanks. Russia's warns Britain over navy confrontation, Raab: Russia being 'predictably inaccurate', Britain says it will always defend seafaring rights, Russia says London is sowing barefaced lies. No-one will be able to fight back in an all in war today. Europe could and should commit itself to being more than a match for Russia if it had the balls. "It is a hypersonic sea-based system - [and the vessel has other] latest-generation weapons. Will Stewart General Sir Nick Carter delivering the annual Royal United Services Institute lecture. The assessment said Moscow had deployed troops to the border on a 'permanent' basis and said the movement of 'stockpiles of ammunition, field hospitals and security services' to the hinterlands confirmed 'the preparation for offensive operations'. Count on enhancing economic & financial cooperation. And it will be forthcoming if I am wrong as I hope yours will be in reverse. You must have access to a higher level of intel than me then. If they cant see it the RU navy will likely assess its not there. As this is different from Davids comment below Ill go away and try to get some evidence. Is funny that in America when Trump was President the media said he had made a secret deal with Putin but now that Biden is President and has verbally given Putin the OK to invade Ukraine the US media says nothing but how great Biden is. However, it does look like everybody is going to fight back. Russian warships have been pictured off the coast of Britain, en route to a suspected bolstering of the bombing campaign on the besieged Syrian city Aleppo.. Royal Navy vessels were closely . Pentagon spokesman John Kirby said the intelligence was 'very credible.'. We do need more ships and we will increase the number of frigates in the years to come. get her back in dock and rebuild her from the inside out. it wont need much of a spark to set it all off. It requires us to hold their backyard at risk, whether thats in the Barents Sea, the High North, the Baltic or the Black Sea.. The conflict in Donbass has killed 15,000 people, Kyiv says. Britain said the shots were part of a Russian gunnery exercise. Not sitting, looks like hes on his way to Moscow to have a quiet chat with Sergei Shoigu. Whilst we (NATO) wont be firing shots, theres a massive amount that can be done with regards to intelligence and weapon supply that, arguably should have been done a month ago. Like wise the Danse could blockade the Baltic as well. I think you overestimated Russias economy Ivan , its smaller than that nutty economy of Italys lol. The BBC said shots were fired and that as many as 20 Russian aircraft were "buzzing" the British ship. Which begs the question why? Actually having checked further the major problem the USA/Canada are having are the same that most countries are. The German government even went so far as to brief journalists on Tuesday that cutting Russia off from international banking systems - the so-called 'nuclear option' of sanctions - was off the table, prompting angry denials from Washington. "Even with the pressures of Covid, we remain at short notice to respond to threats both in home waters and around the world. Our Standards: The Thomson Reuters Trust Principles. 25% might just be enough, with the right weapons onboard! First Sea Lord Admiral Tony Radakin said: "This is why the Royal Navy is at sea every day, protecting the UK and our interests. Working hard for your Master Putin, Hay! No Typhoons in Romania at present, but USAF F-15Es there. 'Should Russia invade, we will provide additional defensive equipment to Ukrainians.'. The RF receiver can help to lock onto a RF signal that matches something a target ship would emit. Its perhaps worth considering that just supposing a few Russian armoured/infantry detachments had been deployed in and around Baghdad at important government and military sites as peacekeepers/observers or an actual hostile force, then would the 2003 invasion of Iraq have taken place? Dont want to show my age but I remember reading about the Ropucha class as a schoolboy in the 80s. The US Coast Guard in Alaska came across Russian and Chinese vessels on an ordinary patrol earlier this month, the agency has said. Er, as infantry, I had all of 9 seconds according to the briefing table on the Majors desk reading down the list and RMP were given 36 hours; and the rest is history. Any toys the RN requires would magical appear on the Quay side, and the funds suddenly available. And even 2 or 3 Astute boats would give any fleet a serious headache. That would make a great movie but better to follow the money trail back to Russia and other foreign powers. AnyRead more , Once again I must say that your assessment is spot on. loads of shps. Lauren Lewis For Mailonline That is the role of EFP troops in Poland and the Baltics show of support plus being a tripwire. There was the Orange revolution in Ukraine in 2004/5 that was the point that they started to orient themselves more with the West. Whereas I have friends and colleagues dotted along the West Coast which is how I can call out your nonsense on that one. So were Western economies corrupt, going back in time. It looks like a scene from 1984. NSM like Harpoon has a range that means it flies way over the horizon. 'The operatives are trained in urban warfare and using explosives to carry out acts of sabotage against Russia's own proxy forces. Sadly its not nonsense, the number of ships laying off shore is rising. During the last 2 years lots of HGV drivers left the profession, as happens every year. Spot on Johnathan, nothing beats the smell of Cordite when doing a spread or up ladder SU shoot. Oh, that would be Slovakia and Poland for example who have NATO aircraft from America not to mention eFP fighters in Lithuania, Estonia and Bulgaria. My good friend and neighbour, an ex USN chief engineer on subs is a mildly Right of Centre Republican but even he voted for Biden in the last election. Morning Spy. So, USA has no troops in Ukraine? Yep 100%. Russian Navy ships can be seen in satellite imagery approaching the Ukrainian Coast. Should be a 10 year rule everything gets stored for at least 10 years in case needed. Iran if anything will be taking the opportunity to cause issues whilst US attention is firmly off the region. The 210-sailor warship left the port of Murmansk in northwestern Russia on January 6 for the Lofoten Islands in the Norwegian Sea. The British destroyer visited the Ukrainian port of Odessa this week, where an agreement was signed for Britain to help upgrade Ukraine's navy. British Defence Minister Ben Wallace accused Russian pilots of conducting unsafe aircraft manoeuvres 500 feet (152 m) above the warship. No they didnt. His views were backed by Labour leader Keir Starmerwho tweeted on Saturday: To protect our values and our security we must be steadfast in our opposition to Russian aggression. It was purely a theoretical consideration . Wow so they first entered service about the same time as the Type 21s ! 'We have information that indicates Russia has already pre-positioned a group of operatives to conduct a false flag operation in eastern Ukraine,' she said. Could you tell me what youre drinking? Boris take a private plane back to London from a climate summit in order to get to a party thrown by a conservative party donor .. is that not more irritating than a child asking the adults toRead more , the swedes attitude to defence equipment and production is very good. means nothing until they are in the fleet, weve got more warships but the admiralty and the M.O.D cant see beyond their arrogance 5 more rivers given the thai navy upgrades to their batch 2 KRABI i.e a 76 otto melara rapid fire gun which was chosen ahead of the raytheon ram 116 system two extra 30mm cannon located aft of the bridge wings with the option of martlet sometime in the future otions to fit harpoon, these are real warships and we should do the same and designate them as corvettes or light frigates add 5 more warships to todays number of 19, then, 24 ships soundsRead more , reasonable place to forward base a t31 maybe. Find out more. Broker a deal to have Russian military bases in their country. Those deliveries are ongoing, and there are more scheduled in the coming weeks.. We are were we are now and it should have never have got to this point. America last night warned the Kremlin of 'massive consequences' as its top diplomat flew to Europe for last-ditch talks aimed at averting war. There are only two roads from Crimea that could be blocked or destroyed, a potential weakness, he said. If this invasion happens it could well lead to the Chinese taking the opportunity to seize Taiwan, Iran will cause trouble in the Straits of Homuz and missile man could well take the opportunity to invade the South. Invasion of a NATO state or even probably Sweden Im sure would. And its theseRead more . Murdaugh is heckled as he leaves court, Two Russian tanks annihilated with bombs by Ukrainian armed forces, Ukraine soldiers shoot down enemy drones with drones of their own, Dozens stuck in car park as staff refuses to open gate for woman, Missing hiker buried under snow forces arm out to wave to helicopter, Insane moment river of rocks falls onto Malibu Canyon in CA, Fleet-footed cop chases an offender riding a scooter, Isabel Oakeshott clashes with Nick Robinson over Hancock texts. Hi Robert. They hit targets of a 'simulated enemy' in 'large-scale' exercises involving 500 military personnel. That was not my point: NATO has antied up and put boots on the ground, who are prepared to fight. Iran has already stepped up activities in the gulf region, recently attacked the UAE with drones from Yemen causing a few civilian casualties. Turkey's Interior Minister Suleyman Soylu said on Saturday that the death toll in Turkey from last month's massive earthquakes has to 45,968. Britain said Russia was giving an inaccurate account of the incident. Still better than a 4.5 gun. There was a table top exercise done by the Navy back in the late 80s. I think not, and the point is that this illustrates that Nuclear Insurance works! Using it just to illustrate how the forward presence of US/Nato forces in Eastern Europe may or may not influence Russian decision making. Initially other then a echo sounder suite for navigation which is a safety requirement, there are no current plans for a ASW fit on the T31s, for the reasons you have stated. Criminal in the present circumstances which has been predictable for years that no effort to do so has been made. The conclusion was that Tiger stood the better chance due to her 6 turret being mostly electrically powered rather than hydraulic, like Blakes, so the presumption was shed be more reliable. And the balls to back up that posture with action if necessary. Russia released footage filmed from a Russian SU-24 bomber flying close to the British ship. . If this new cold war turns into something nasty, our T45 should have something better than Harpoon to engage enemy ships. Astutes dont need to surface to receive Comms, they are more then capable of receiving them whilst deep. JSM is also getting a version of BAes RF receiver, that is one of the primary sensors on the LRASM. Trump kissed Putins behind in every way possible to the point he tried to break our democracy on the 6th of January, 2021. The region has been on a knife-edge since the end of last year when Moscow moved as many as 100,000 troops, as well as tanks and missiles, close to the border. I think it is sad that Biden never got a shot at the Presidency a decade ago. We reported earlier that amid ongoing tensions between Russia and Ukraine, the Russian navy has sortied 5 Ropucha-class landing ships and one Ivan Gren-class landing ship from their Baltic fleet, likely headed to the Black Sea. Didnt work out too well last time. Thought about those beasties Johnathan if they hadnt been converted to Helicopter carriers as such and kept the Aft turrets as well nice broadside those cordites were huge, No worries. He is testing NATO unity and Bidens willingness to risk the wrath of those voters while knowing any faltering step in those voters eyes be it commitment of weakness will bring back a Trump style Govt withRead more , I do wonder if another motivating factor could be something more base than that. Russkie pension, weekly bucket of spuds and one litre of 2 stroke. Are Putins dirty secrets going to be revealed? A mere 3 BGs in total and designed just to reassure the people of Poland, Latvia and Lithuania. 'Clearly the preferable path, clearly the most responsible path and the one that we would prefer, but there is also the path if Russia chooses to renew aggression, of conflict, confrontation and consequences for Russia,' Blinken said. These Russian landing ships are probably headed into the Black Sea for possible amphibious ops against Ukraine. The warship is feared to be loaded with 7,000mph hypersonic missiles with a range of over 600 miles. Thu Feb 3 2022 - 19:50. THE Royal Navy has shadowed nine Russian warships stalking Britain's coast in the past two weeks. He then moves on to Berlin and will also hold talks with France and the UK. The same Russian warship has since conducted military drills in the Norwegian Sea, the Russian defence ministry announced. The NATO Allied Maritime Command is "closely monitoring" Russian frigate Admiral Gorshkov, it said in a tweet with a photo of the warship. EDIT spelling corrections. Their speed, range, persistence on station, sensors stealth and firepower make them the modern day battleships, only vastly more effective. The Ivan Gren-class can transport 40 BTRs or IFVs and 300 troops. They may be old but the Russians have used some of them very hard on the Russia/Syria Syrian Express run. US Secretary of State Antony Blinken today warnedRussia could attack Ukraine on 'very short notice'during a meeting with UkrainianPresident Volodymyr Zelensky at the American embassy in Kiev. There are plenty of other tough choices we need to make in order to solve climate change, I know but what really gets my goat, are the people who whi ge about C C then drive their kids to school, in those bloody 44 SUVs and the School is within walking distance. The 4.5 has the range, accuracy and stopping power to deal with that kind of threat. We all have opinions and may not always agree but nice to keep things civilised. It can be logically assumed that KALIBR capability willRead more . "The Sun", "Sun", "Sun Online" are registered trademarks or trade names of News Group Newspapers Limited. Therefore in theory at least for the narrowest Dover-Calais area we could do that. Tensions escalated at the end of last week after American officials claimed to have information that Moscow had deployed resources for a 'false flag' attack. Once there they re establish the picture. During its 2008 war with Georgia, Russia bristled at U.S. warships operating in the Black Sea, and in April the United States cancelled the deployment of two warships to the area. I meant a small number combat troops postured to help the Ukranians defend themselves. The other question which has been posed before-if the Ukraine had not given up its nukes, would Russia risk starting a fight with them? The Telegraph values your comments but kindly requests all posts are on topic, constructive and respectful. EFP is irrelevant to the Russo-Ukraine situation. I am very much older than 25 and I find her far more grown up than most actual grown ups. https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-01-03/kremlin-insider-klyushin-is-said-to-have-2016-hack-details. On western side it was concern that with the post Soviet economic collapse theyd end up in very dodgy countries hands. Who do you think got impeached by the US House for trying to compromise Zelensky? I think youll find the Poles really ramping up, unlike us Brits who have more horses than tanks, the Poles have superannuated their winged hussars moumts and morphed onto modern MBTs. In an announcement on Monday, the agency said the surprise. But Russia? The ships - which included a . Britain was unexpectedly embroiled in a diplomatic and military dispute with Russia on Wednesday after Royal Navy destroyer HMS Defender briefly sailed through territorial waters off the coast. Western military analysts have suggested Russia cannot keep such troops deployed where they are indefinitely for financial and logistical reasons and would need to pull them back by summer. They keep Russia's options open and therefore keep the defender guessing,' said Keir Giles, an Associate Fellow at Chatham House. He has set out his demands publicly (Ukraine never to join NATO, EFP troops to withdraw from Poland and the Baltics as a minimum) and he will then withdraw his troops we in the west will not agree to any of that. Their Intel also saying that they see no particular problem. You are just scapegoating Douglas. , updated Putin praised the ship's strength as it sailed off on its journey, saying: "The frigate Admiral Gorshkov is embarking on a long sea voyage. That calls a defense expert on the plan. I know Sean but she would certainly Grind Vlad Putin down, Thats true enough, she grinds me down and I accept the science behind climate change!! The huge explosion at the military complex of Parchin, 30 kilometers southeast Tehran. Assassinations of nuclear experts. Ok we fought for repression of all subjugated Countries including the German folk who were under the heel of the Nazi jackboot. 679215 Registered office: 1 London Bridge Street, London, SE1 9GF. Your posts are very aggressive. Any damage to external sensors, VLS tubes, the bridge area, mast, or flight deck would be enough to take it out of the fight. Earlier this year, Vladimir Putin said the 135-meter-long frigate would sail for the Atlantic, the Indian Ocean and the Mediterranean Sea with the latest generation hypersonic cruise missiles on board. A Russian military ship armed with hypersonic missiles has sailed through the Strait of Dover, the narrowest part of the English Channel - only a few miles away from the English coast. Exercise still underway, they go to the Med when its finished. UK, US and some Baltic states seem to be the only ones that seem they maybe willing to fight. It depends on the severity of what Russia will do if it invades. Which it now seems were there to pick up gear to take out of the Baltic, not across it. The most comprehensive solution to manage all your complex and ever-expanding tax and compliance needs. I think itRead more , Hi Dave ,knife through Butter with todays build of warships we can but dream a larger build of Destroyer with 6in either single or twin fully Auto good fire control radar no need for the old 274/75 sights or LAS just ops Rm fire controller and PWO but alas smaller ships and bores seem too be the way fwd with The MOD. Itll make Snatch Landrover fiasco look trivial. Putin is getting old and hybrid warfare is fruitful but getting boring. Russian troops could also move into Belarus, opening a northern front for Ukraine that would put Russian forces closer to Kyiv, Giles said. Ties between London and Moscow have been on ice since the 2018 poisoning with a Soviet-developed nerve agent known as Novichok of ex-double agent Sergei Skripal, a mole who betrayed hundreds of Russian agents to Britain's MI6 foreign spy service. They now believe they have achieved their goal and no longer have to bowRead more , Err no. "These aircraft posed no immediate threat to HMS Defender, but some of these manoeuvres were neither safe nor professional," Britain's Wallace said. Really Ivan ? Ukraine has long accused Russia of having regular troops in the region, something Moscow denies.
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