You keep referring to the Constitution's original language and writings but that's been beat back again and again over the course of the years. That's why every selfish person here complains that the government doesn't use resources in the right place; the government waits too long to address problems; the government wastes money. Since then I have been visited a few times by a nice Dept. I served my country in Vietnam. I just thought I would throw that out there! Read more here: Camp Lejeune Lawsuit Claims. They never say that they are going to fine you. This means that there is no class that can be joined or signed up for by any consumers who feel they may have been covered by the litigation. Think anyone is going to get approval to send out US Marshals to issue tickets? I already returned that info in the original census last year. I'll pay the fine if I have to, but I'm not going to let them bully me into submitting to their scare tactics. First from a phone bot then yesterday a phone call from a real person. A few visits to my door that went unanswered, a few letters filled with empty threats, and after a month or so, and it all subsided. They are instilling fear. When I got the second form I mailed it back stating I filled it out already and do not need to fill it out again. Actually: for thoe who think you can merely fill out the form and not be called, that's a lie! so i would be prepared. A Census Bureau representative is quoted in this report as saying that the Bureau is really not in the business of prosecuting people who dont comply.[33] However, a refusal to answer the survey violates the letter of the law and a prosecution might be brought if the government decides to adopt a policy to do so. My husband and I run a small trucking company, and we received a census form for the business. This crap has been going on for almost a month now! Now I wish I hadn't answered her on the phone. I didn't argue or discuss it, just stated the truth and hung up immediately. It has been more than 40 years since that was done and they do not want any court case to be brought up that can challenge the constitutionality of their threats. At first, I completed the survey, sealed it in the envelope, and then did not send it. I got a call last night from the Census folks, wanting to know our birthdays. I told them there is a problem if they are not getting their mail. I was really hoping she would stick around and argue with me some more, I was kind of of enjoying it because I knew there wasn't anything she could do. In three weeks they should mail me a duplicate form. I'll see "YOU" on the tube."You Tube". I told her not to come back or I would spray her with my garden hose. Non parlo inglese!" Yeah right! Yeah, I've got concerns, and no, I'm not going to answer their questions. Life is too short to be so mad about insignificant things. I don't see what the big deal is. I'll give you potential issues with being counted. I actually worked for the Census in 1970. but who gets the census??? When I returned home he was scared and thought he did something wrong. I called his supervisor. It's hard to believe that a patriotic, high school social studies teacher, and law-abiding citizen, such as myself, could be compelled to suggest such civil disobedience--but here I am, and hear me loud. A: There are significant and legitimate questions concerning the authority of the government to require, under threat of prosecution and penalty, that persons answer questions posed by the ACS. We were hired to call people who did not respond and we left messages on answering machines. I don't believe the ACS should, or has the right, to require more. The founders feared the use of direct taxes so they created a system to discourage their use. At that point I stepped in and said goodbye. More money from the government for that extra lane of highway to make my commute faster. To posters 190 and 191: Thank you for your input and advice. Never give any phone numbers (tell them you don't have a phone and your employer forbids giving out the company cellular phone number). As stated in the US Constitution Article 1 Section 2: I only have to fulfill my duty as a citizen by helping you enumerate, and I'm not required to answer any questions until the next Census in 2010. Recipients of the American Community Survey are told several times that the information given is necessary for the operation of our government, is very secure and is kept private. In support of this argument, the defendants submitted an assertion from ACS chief Donna Dailey, who assured that the Census Bureau does not threaten non-responding addresses with the enforcement of fines or with referral to [the Department of Justice] for prosecution. Dailey added that [i]n the history of the ACS, no one has ever been prosecuted for failing to respond to the survey, and that no one has ever been referred to the DOJ for prosecution, nor has the DOJ ever prosecuted someone, for failing to respond, the order shares. I walked over to my neighbors later that evening and they told me that she did not come by to see them, but she was very persistent about getting the birth dates, ages, place of employment, phone numbers. Its about an obnoxiously intrusive survey, based on a lie about fire stations and such, done in a not so anonymous manner, by people who are often temporary workers and thus lack accountability for the privacy of the information they take. Of course I would expect them to correct this oversight in the near future. While I also oppose the Census form being sent out, -anon70698, the number of representatives and taxes will be determined by the number of people in the area is what Article I, Section 2, Clause 3 of the United States Constitution is about. He ignored the legality but admitted there were corporate sponsors involved. ACS estimates are all period estimates representing an interval of time, not a single date like April 1, 2010. I will file a class action suit against the Government if they continue to harass me and hope to gain momentum in order to force the government to be liable for any information lost on their part. And no one can say with a high degree of certainty whether the virus was the result of . If you give them a little info they will keep at you until you give in. I've been through one round of the no-response ordeal back in '08 and everything turned out just fine. Remember Germany. Not about us - about adjoining property! Twice, a person showed up at our door. (address, city, county, state, zip). The biggest, the American Community Survey (ACS), is sent annually to more than 3.5 million randomly selected homes to gather population, economic, housing and other data that helps determine how hundreds of billions of dollars in state and federal money is distributed. Lock and Load. Skip to main content. I am not giving my personal information out to anyone authorized by this government. Instead, you are encouraged to call one of the Census Bureau's two telephone centers directly to determine the legitimacy of the call you just received: Jeffersonville, IN: 1-800-523-3205. I just sent the supervisor who knocked on my door packing! A lock ( With identity theft on the rise, many are concerned. [36] This same principle could apply to questions posed by ACS agents. Government entities do illegal things. Passive resistance is no longer an option. Chinese officials knew nothing about the virus before the pandemic emerged. I do not think I should have to give out that kind of information. I told him "We're done here". As long as there are enough people who didn't fill out the census? So far no challenges to our door visitors. When she called tonight at my employer, I told her I was moving. Will these jackasses really come after me or is all this talk about fines and such just a scare tactic? Condos hire people inside the condo as census people. Correction, now it's been a total of seven times. After the first couple of letters I received I started getting harassing phone calls from them. Corrado Rizzi is the Senior Managing Editor of ClassAction.org. The American Community Survey (ACS) helps local officials, community leaders, and businesses understand the changes taking place in their communities. Fine, sue me, I dare you, but stop holding me hostage in my home. The Rutherford Institute has received hundreds of inquiries from individuals who have received the ACS and are not comfortable sharing such private, intimate details with the government or are unsettled by the aggressive tactics utilized by Census Bureau agents seeking to compel responses to ACS questions. And I say that is the point -- I do not want my state or city dependent on big government this is socialism and pork barrel out of control government spending. While we understand your assertion that this information is needed for some reason deemed important by somebody, and that the information requested will be kept strictly confidential, I respectfully decline to participate in this American Community Survey, and request that you do not misdirect further efforts to gather this private information about the members of my household from either myself or any other source. Is the enemy offshore or some creep in a bloated Federal Dept we don't even need? I am glad I am not myself the lunatic fringe. Turns out, the worker knew where my husband works and called him there shortly after. A: The Census Bureau states that information from this survey is used to assist a wide variety of entities, from federal, stateand local governments to private corporations, nonprofit organizations, researchersand public advocacy groups. Do you think Cass Sunstein knowing how many people, of what age, have physical and emotional disabilities is for the benefit of your family? Haven't heard from the ACS people, "government man", or my dorm supervisor since then. How about the number of cars that are normally in your driveway if everyone is home? These concern matters that the government simply has no business knowing, including questions relating to respondents bathing habits, home utility costs, fertility, marital history, work commute, mortgage, and health insurance, among others. During such calls the survey taker reminds the resident that compliance with the ACS is mandatory. On Monday, a worker left a letter at my door advising he would return again. [8] https://www2.census.gov/programs-surveys/acs/about/qbyqfact/2016/Ancestry.pdf. Then they came to my door while I was out of town and left me a note with their name and number. My recommendation is that secondary prevention be used with the possibility of tertiary prevention since he appears to be in the initial stages of exploring these behaviors. So he then left. I filled it out. (ACS questions 1, 3 and 4), 3. Similarly, the plaintiffs contest that nothing in the federal code allows for a fine for refusal to answer the American Community Survey to be considered a criminal offense. Learn about two important Census Bureau surveys covering housing data, the American Community Survey (ACS) and the American Housing Survey (AHS). I told her it would be easier for all of us if she did so. Bunch of grumpy anti social loners. I will pay the fine if that is what it takes. We got our second ACS in the mail along with a follow up postcard. Get every bit of info on that person I can (don't forget to do a criminal search) and call them and start asking them questions they will find offensive and question them about their personal life from what I find out about them. Since then, I have received four phone calls from the US Census Bureau. According to some accounts, those recipients who chose not to return the form and did not respond to phone calls or private visits appeared to be hassled the least. They haven't gone so far as to threaten, but I can sense that their tone is getting more firm. Title OFFICIAL ADDRESS TELEPHONE Number City State ZIP Code FAX . don't let this happen! For the information of the people here, Congressman Poe (Texas) and Bachmann (Minnesota)have introduced legislation to eliminate the ACS intrusive questions. We've had non-stop, unannounced visits by the same census taker, who continues to drive-by the home multiple times during the day. What is the ACS (American Community Survey)? Have to love how the government pays people to harass you. I told them they were barking up the wrong tree and they need to follow the U.S. Now they called again and wanted to ask these questions over the phone. America Counts: Stories Behind the Numbers. Our town boasts 90,000 citizens, but we know there are at least an additional 10,000 illegals here (yes, here in Mexifornia). Unfortunately, the second time my husband gave in, as he felt we would get fined and was tired of the threats. Anyone who took the time to actually read the ACS and understand how sensitive this information is and how unsecured it actually is would join in the outrage and demand that it be given its proper burial in the grave of horrible bureaucratic policy. If I have 1, 2 or even 3 people in my house, that is all I need to give. The law does not say you have to answer their questions (so don't). A .gov website belongs to an official government organization in the United States. Me and my family were properly counted on census day 2010. I want to know how long these temp workers are going to be employed? Be advised that no matter how intensive your efforts become, nor what kind of fine, penalty, prosecution or imprisonment you may wish to threaten, I, as a free American citizen, will not allow any agency of this government to demand, under penalty of law, that I disclose private and personal information about the members of my household. Fact Sheet Aug 25, 2021 Fact Sheet: Protecting and Advancing Health Care for Transgender Adult Communities New data and analysis reveal important health disparities and barriers to care for. Now let me get my cell phone fully charged and ready for the doorbell to ring. The percentage of household income spent on rent plus utilities increased from 2019 to 2021 and renters with the lowest annual income saw the largest spikes. Well, our credit cards, social security numbers, and who knows what else, are now being used by illegal aliens and fraudulent companies. finally he told her he would call the cops if she didn't leave. Currently, Oscar is a 7-year-old boy with ODD whose refusal behaviors have begun to be both verbally aggressive and physically violent. anon 77369: It is incorrect to say that you are required to respond. Way too much info requested (stuff I wouldn't tell my friends, let alone the government!!) I received two surveys. After 40 years and right before everybody in the country is supposed to reply to the 2010 census? Especially after reading the comments on this page. He is a senior in high school and just finished studying the history of communism. [16] https://www2.census.gov/programs-surveys/acs/about/qbyqfact/2016/Vehicles.pdf. I told her to get a US Marshal with a warrant. (ACS question number 33). OMG!! Thus, if they want a specific task force to track illegals and tax invading americans, then so be it. But I will not tell you when I leave for work and about the medical condition of my relatives. We do live in a relatively remote area, and none of them can make sense of maps they are provided with. And you just know that if I answer a survey about college, they will just send me another next year and keep tracking me. I was truthful in all 10 short form answers. Title 13 section 141, subsections (a) and (d) authorize surveys. As noted, the ACS seeks much more information than the number of persons in a household. [17] https://www2.census.gov/programs-surveys/acs/about/qbyqfact/2016/Disability.pdf. He claimed he'd be back. Keep liberty free and stand up for your countries constitutional rights. She then stated that she has not talked to the supervisor. It felt so good. Who has my info now? I've received two of these obscene forms and I do not to answer any of the questions printed thereon. I made the mistake of putting my phone number on the form. Person 48. I know that some of you were harassed by the census folks. She was a little surprised how I knew things about her. I also, as many of you, returned my census form (as I should and as the Constitution requires) but this has gone so far over the line that it's ridiculous. Under Title 13 of the U.S. Code, you can be fined up to $100 for refusing to complete a census form and $500 for answering questions falsely. And I did so right away. Stonewall them out. Some doubt these assurances based on the survey collection process itself. They have came to my door unannounced on many occations. I guess it's too simple, or full of common sense. No one from the Census has ever e-mailed you - they don't have e-mail and even if they did, they don't have yours. We gave the government the right to count us. I now have multiple visits to my home every day, followed up by threatening calls with an hour of each. The Supreme Court upheld that against Bill Clinton's attempt to implement statistical sampling for the 2000 census. With the census bureau losing over 600 laptops, and the current abuses of power, I see no reason to give out the information that they are asking. Mailed it in. You wonder why people are reluctant to give out information. Thank you for being here. I am sure that will go far. They aren't the enemy, so I don't act hostile towards them, but it still unnerves me how they got my cell phone number. I had the misfortune of getting an ACS survey a few years ago. But not so with us. What are you all so worried about? After a couple of weeks of harassing phone calls and knocks on my door, I sent the following letter, after which the harassment finally stopped. They had been to my house (outside) and told me this was coming. I am going to avoid all traps and when it is time to have them finally come over I am going to do an international webcast and sing answers and slowly say, ohhhhh I don't know.let me think and sit there for 15 minutes for each question.everyone will know where I don't work, how much money I don't make and that I don't have plumbing and that I fart a lot That's the game the Nazi's started with in the 30's as did Stalin, with the knocks on the door and the spying on each other. And the big 2010 census is coming and they can't have ANY negative publicity. Is there anything I can do about this? Then I whistled up the dogs who escorted him tenderly to his car. the simple census form I got had another insert in which they claim that "answers are confidential" and "answers you give cannot be obtained by law enforcement or tax collection agencies" and "your answers cannot be used in court" or obtained through a FOIA request. But the Supreme Court is not supreme over the other branches of government; it is supreme only over lower federal courts. I was not in a hurry since I already had done this once. I will not submit. I said yes for about the third time and hung up. We are still Americans and do not need to share personal information against our will. Please post legal options for readers when census takers are sharing personal information with neighbors! The daily number of cyber attacks on our federal government and access by illicit state and non-state actors is eye watering. S1901 INCOME IN THE PAST 12 MONTHS (IN 2021 INFLATION-ADJUSTED DOLLARS) View All 23 Products. What time do the male members of your household go to work? I've been through it. We are law abiding, tax paying citizens and always do the right thing. Plaintiffs declarations also do not support a finding they were subject to a genuine threat of imminent prosecution.. It's been an easy decision for me. Call your local U.S. congress member. They must have found it because I heard no more but neither did I get an apology. A number of findings also closely match results obtained from surveys of U.S. faculty and graduate students. Suggestions include "With whom did you last have a sexual encounter and when and where did this take place?
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