Something went wrong. As I said in the other NCO topic. The members here in the board who collect these swords are taking a very good investment for the future. / scabbard has quite a bit of its original war time browning and Agree with others had to study it for a bit, since it is not an obvious reproduction - but at the end of the day, it has issues! The painted handle and scabbard color look very nice, even though there were still some parts not correct compared to the real one, but it will fool a lot of people, like many dealers, there main concern is profit, regardless of the piece being a reproduction. Sometimes they get irate. Most soldiers and citizens surrendered their swords to the American occupying forces. For questions or accessibility help - please call (908) 903-1200. This sword has a cast aluminium tsuka (hilt) with an approximately 10mm thick ornate aoi-shaped brass tsuba (guard). They don't need to read the NMB daily to see if there are any tips. If you cannot see this grain or do not know what to look for, assume it is carved bone, not ivory. They just copy the real swords they import.Just comment what you like, you are not changing anything. If there are serial numbers stamped in the blade, it is a machine made One thing I also saw while researching is the nightmare of the number of fakes out there. I sent the seller a message. 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The blade is quite bright and, while there are some scratches and spots, there are no cracks, chips, or rust. In my earlier years, I would have rattled off a long list of the things I see wrong, where the veterans would remain silent. View cart for details. It's also highly unlikely that a replica would have such a wonderfully aged scabbard cover. - all carved and Please see our. Carved bone and carved ivory sword mountings almost always have untempered, soft steel blades. will show tiny dots/specks (nioi and/or nie) along and between the border of the hamon and the rest of the blade. Overall a very nice condition WW2 Type 95 NCO Katana that will appreciate in value over the coming years. The Mechanix of Auto, Aviation, Militarypert near anything I feel relates to mechanical things, places, events or whatever I happen to like. Sponsored. C $1,999.99 . This looks good from a distance, but up close the details reveal the fake. Here are the expected photos of the serial numbers. It is said that during battle soldiers would not use the ring but rather would stick the sword through the belt the same way as the Samurai in ancient times. Japanese WWII Type 95 NCO Sword. Seppa intergrated in the fuchi is a no go here. / full sized images available upon request. I am not sure why the serial numbers are covered? Serial number placement. Etchings. a "real" sword and certainly not an antique. World War 2 Historian, Relic Hunter and expert in identification of WW2 relics. These were made as tourist items from the 1870's through the 1930's. Obviously I can't be sure, but that's my guess anyway. Is the tang (nakago) signed? Guaranteed authentic: A WW2 Type 95 Japanese army NCO's sword, Kokura arsenal stamp. Hi all,while I'm sure our members know how to pick a fake NCO, I wanted to share these.http://mountcastlesantiques.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=18&products_id=277http://mountcastlesantiques.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=18&products_id=276&zenid=qot0424cgushvekob07rapkkq2The really disappointing part is that I informed the site owner about the first sword and provided a comprehensive list of indicators the sword is not genuine. Newer swords will have a grey, metallic tang perhaps with a little red rust. locking mechanism works very well. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. General McCarthur did not want the general population to be able to arm again. Sorry Its not even a good fake. Required fields are marked *. It's 40 inches overall, with a 33.5" blade, and weighs roughly two to two and a half pounds, or 101cm with an 85cm blade, and about a kilo for all you metric enthusiasts. But machine made swords like this one do not have the accuracy of manufacturing that enable the Habaki to perform such a function. I need attribution not for sale, but for museum exhibit. well it would have fooled me, how about you other gunto guys? I forgot to point out that inside the scabbard there are wooden inserts. There are two NCO late stage on Ebay now. Something changed in the last 6 months. The serial number should be near the bottom of the . The type and color of the rust is used to help date and to authenticate the blade. The collctors in China can spot the fake easily as well,and they pay more than us to get the real ones. For definitions of terms, check the visual glossary page. Replica swords and many The biggest giveaway are the stamps. Cheers to Dan for bringing it to my attention. This is a very scarce and important very early production Japanese Army Type 95 NCO Sword. It is something I very much dread, having to carefully vet every sword I see, but that's what happens when something increases in value at a steady rate each and every year. We assume no liability associated with misuse of our products. most certainly mean the blade is handmade. Description. Most sword canes were produced in the late 19th Century - early 20th Century. Never use force to remove the handle.) Pre-Owned. IMA works diligently to be aware of these ever changing laws and obeys them accordingly. This page was last updated: 04-Mar 05:55. Thanks sean, Your email address will not be published. I am extremely thankful for the help/knowledge shared in this forum. Learn how your comment data is processed. View cart for details. NCOs will progress into the minefield of German militaria in the next couple of decades. But machine made swords like this one do not have the accuracy of manufacturing that enable the Habaki to perform such a function. Even the once "lowly" type 95 NCO sword has started to command high prices. sword clubs in many cities. Have always thought the comments about not tipping off the forgers are just plain silly.I still do.The image of some rough factory in China where they are turning these outand some guy on a computer somewhere shouting out in Chinese into the factory "Hey guys! DO NOT UNWRAP THE HANDLE! $159.50. IMA considers all antique guns offered on our website as non-firing, inoperable and/or inert. How the sword is mounted has nothing to do with its age or authenticity. This would fool most entry level guys. The Americans destroyed a large number of swords by dumping them into the ocean or by melting them. Typical WWII Imperial Japanese Army style fittings, with a single suspension ring from the scabbard, known as the "New Military Sword" (shin guntou) style. Grain (hada) is sometimes difficult for beginners to recognize. There are also numerous reproduction and fake Japanese swords on But a small percentage made its way back to the United States and into the collector market. The condition of this sword is very good, with only some light surface staining on the blade. Copyright 1995-2023 eBay Inc. All Rights Reserved. swords. Even should they be able to reproduce the sword exactly, it is not just that one should be looking at, but a series of common features in patina that are universal to genuine, old NCO. I'm not going to go into details. When in doubt, check the blade with a magnet. I don't want to help them any more than necessary. There are strategies in place with most countries Customs and Border protection to seize and destroy fake watches, handbags, CD's DVD's etc, but swords are not even on the RADAR. NCO Katanas were issued to soldiers who did not want to take their family sword to battle or who came from poor families that did not have swords to pass down through the generations. By placing an order, the buyer represents that he/she is in compliance with the law and will utilize the items in a lawful manner. Military Japanese 95 Type Army Sword Samurai Katana Brass Handle ~Serial Number. Short fuller. This scabbard also has an original leather field cover, which has discolored and shrunk over time. WW2. The great majority of these swords are made of carved bone, not ivory. (hamon). Saw these photos of a fake Type 95. By rejecting non-essential cookies, Reddit may still use certain cookies to ensure the proper functionality of our platform. The matching serial numbers indicate the sword was taken off the Japanese soldier, not an end of war mass surrender item (swords and scabbards were frequently . It's a reissued one like one in Fuller & Gregory's book. Also, the tang on this is full length, with two holes. Real swords only had flat-head screws. Gun magazine laws, concealed weapons laws, laws governing new made display guns, airsoft guns, blank fire guns, and other items vary greatly by nation, state and locality. The original thread is gone and buried somewhere and this, Saw these photos of a fake Type 95. This fine example is a genuine WWII Japanese Type 95 NCO Samurai Sword or katana with aluminum handle construction and machine made blade. Sure, there's lots of other details like proof marks to look for, but these 5 things are just glaringly obvious and easy to see in pictures, and one or more seems to be on every single repro sword out there, so they're quick and easy ways to ID fakes. The Type 95 NCO sword is similar in appearance to officers Type 94 and Type 98 Shin-gunt military swords, but is made of lower quality materials, most notably its hilt, which is made from metal and the scabbard was similar to that of the Type 32 with a prominent drag. The scabbard exhibits about 70% of its original olive brown. Blade is 26.25 inches long, with an overall length of 36.25 inches. Used. I'll be an optimist Did he say to use as the basis for copies? Matching serial numbers 31123. The position of the number on the blade, configured to be read with the cutting edge down, identifies the sword as having been produced by the Tokyo Arsenal (The only other source for the Type 95 sword was the Nagoya arsenal, which impressed the number on the blade in such a way that it is read with the cutting edge facing up). Here is another example that's not too bad, but the bohi, stamps (these are most obvious parts) and other details are off. Yes, those are strangely too perfect and not a recognized font. It is said that during battle soldiers would not use the ring but rather would stick the sword through the belt the same way as the Samurai in ancient times. You might also visit the Ohmura site and study the pictures there. remounted in samurai type mounts by collectors. About 80,000 of the Ko sabers were produced between 1899 and 1936, with the lowest reported serial number being 1175 and the highest one being 83390. Usually the copies are considerably lower, making it very obvious. Sincerely, Eugene Quote vajo Gold Tier 5.8k Location:Germany / Bavaria Name: Chris Sch. Of the eight army arsenals active in the war only Kokura, Tokyo First and Nagoya were involved in the Type 95 program. Be the first to know of our latest discoveries and exclusive offers. The early serial number shows this sword saw service throughout By Posted October 27, 2017 Be the first to know of our latest discoveries and exclusive offers. I completely agree with Bill here. real, good condition, price is abit high. the mounts can be interesting with hidden, spring loaded, pop out guards. It comes with the original bag it came home from the war in. They are referred to as "hocho tetsu" (kitchen steel) - a most derogatory term in sword circles. . Carlos,I remember your sword ( if it's the same one you first put on the site ) and it's 100%If you look at the sword by Shamsy in post no9 look at the seppa and how poorly it fits and how new it looks ! Even non-mechanical artsy-fartsy stuff. Most swords do not have matching numbers because somewhere along the life of the sword the scabbard was changed. This is pure fiction. Hi I'm a newly signed up member of the site. All NCO swords were numbered. No habaki. So all of these swords are offered on egun.de, schwertshop.de and other german sellers. Shamsy Where should I look for records or production date/serial number guides? People can scoff at paranoia as much as you like but the simple fact is they are getting better, whether through study of originals or reading well intentioned post. Second the Font isn't even close. Many modern replicas and iaito have aluminum blades. (NOTE: Some swords may have two mekugi - one near the guard and the other near the end of the hilt. Whether a blade is For questions or accessibility help - please call (908) 903-1200. Matching serial numbers 31123. Blade is 26.5 inches long, with an overall length of 36.5 inches. Vice versa, antique blades are occassionally found I really would have liked better pictures of the fuchi in light and the serial numbers, but I am very confident this is a well made reproduction. The serial number, 31278, and arsenal stamp are marked above the bohi (fuller). I admit that I've had to look at it a couple of times. This product is available for international shipping. original copper coloured paint and is in very good shape. by differential tempering of the blade. Create an account to follow your favorite communities and start taking part in conversations. A real hamon Anyway, if ok, can I post some pictures to get your expert opinion on my purchase? The early serial number shows this sword saw service throughout WW2. It's hard to really pin down, just doesn't sit right with the eye. 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Check the military sword page for examples of WW II era Title 18, U.S. Code, Section 921(a)(16) defines antique firearms as all guns manufactured prior to 1899. If the tsuka can be dismanteld from sword with out removing the sarute and barrel, its a fake! (Do not remove the rust). late, now sold). This law exempts antique firearms from any form of gun control or special engineering. One, they aren't in the correct range. Most soldiers and citizens surrendered their swords to the American occupying forces. This being despite the machine made blade an cast aluminum hilt. I recently took the plunge and made my first Japanese sword purchase. Etchings. The Americans destroyed a large number of swords by dumping them into the ocean or by melting them.
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