All Rights Reserved, Copyright MAGA Conservatives. Legal Statement. After all, she is an American; surely shell carry the message home to the families that their husband or son is alive. In fact, when the Tet Offensive broke, Jane Fonda was the featured pinup girl in that months issue of Leatherneck , the official publication of the Marines.. After we published Peter Braunsteins article on Jane Fonda in our July/August issue, perhaps 60 people sent me this story. Just another old women of no consequence, don't give her any credit for ending the war, people like John Kerry and Max Cleland don't even think it's over yet. I mean, the reality is, there were 24,000 American troops on the ground in South Vietnam. And I was I was like a limp noodle what I had experienced and what I had seen, I just I wasnt able to resist, they said were gonna take you out here today. She is the daughter of legendary actor and WWII Naval Officer Henry Fonda. Read on. Why are people more angry at Jane Fonda that they are against, say, Lyndon Johnson and Richard Nixon, the people really responsible? In fact, when the Tet Offensive broke, Jane Fonda was the featured pinup girl in that months issue of Leatherneck , the official publication of the Marines. "There's no disputing that Jane Fonda toured North Vietnam, propagandized on behalf of the communists, and participated in an orchestrated "press conference" with American POWs in 1972. Though Fonda has been an activist throughout her life, the only other time she has spent the night in jail was in 1970, when she was 32, on a speaking tour protesting the Vietnam War. Her lawsuit started it all: Former Fox host Gretchen Carlson claims Ailes repeatedly sexually harassed her. The reality of it is an apology is saying, "I am sorry, I really do apologize for what I did over there, and I'm asking for your forgiveness." MacArthur soon realized he was expected to win battles but lose the war. Yeah, said my stepdaughter, Jill, when I told her about this. Jane Fondas first impression of Americas involvement in Vietnam was that it was a just cause. The POWs are beaten. But she maintains she was not a traitor by speaking out against the war or trying to turn soldiers against it, because she still believesthe U.S. government was lying to them. But when you know why you did something, and youre willing to admit the mistakes that you made, but stand up for the things that you did that that mattered? Richard Morgan, Yeah, said my stepdaughter, Jill, when I told her about this. They landed two months later on 7 May with the 2nd Battalion, 4th Marines. It is possible that the Vietnamese had it all planned. If they did, can I really blame them? But it wasnt untilshe traveled to Hanoi in July 1972 that she really enraged criticsand fundamentally altered how the world viewed her for decades to come. ET! [5]http://www.snopes.com/military/fonda.asp; http://urbanlegends.about.com/library/weekly/aa110399b.htm; http://www.truthminers.com/truth/hanoi_jane.htm; cited on November 24, 2004. SIGN UP FOR OUR FREE DAILY NEWSLETTER, FIRST TAKE, Megyn Kelly Trashed by Rosie O'Donnell as 'Spineless Wanna Be Barbie' for Jane Fonda Spat, 'Jane Fonda in Five Acts' Film Review: Doc Explores the Many Lives of the Actress-Activist, How Jane Fonda Explains 'Hanoi Jane': 'Regret to My Dying Day', said she was among those at Fox News sexually harassed by Ailes. tips@mediaite.com. Fonda moves down the line, greeting each man with encouragements like Arent you ashamed you killed babies? as she shakes his hand. Many Americans traveled to Thats all the ground troops were One of the times it did, Im happy to say, was with Keith Nolan, the author of several books on the war, most recently Ripcord , a superb account of the 101st Airborne in the conflicts last great battle. Her rebellion against the foreign policies of the United States suggested to many outraged Americans that treason might have an All-American face, a familiar accent, and be closer to home than the Other that had previously been assumed to embody the enemy. I mean again, I'm not trying to be pedantic about it, but an apology is, "I'm sorry for what I said. JANE FONDA: It was a terrible mistake. Respected online resources such as Snopes, Truth Miners, and Urban Legends have all cited key persons in the infamous email as having refuted its claims. CHRIS WALLACE: So when you say it was a terrible mistake. As Jane Fonda promotes her new film, "Monster-in-Law", its up to all of us to let our children know about the specific activities she undertook during the Vietnam War. Joining us now is the host of "War Stories," who fought in Vietnam, Colonel Oliver North is with us. Rudi Bakhtiar jumped from CNN to Fox News in 2006. Many Americans traveled to Vietnam on peace delegations to end the war, yet it was Jane Fonda who was captured as a timeless image when she was photographed looking through a Viet Cong anti-aircraft gun. Nobody remembers, nobody cares. Fonda moves down the line, greeting each man with encouragements like Arent you ashamed you killed babies? as she shakes his hand. Jane Fonda and the Vietnam War. https://twitter.com/MegynTODAY/status/955454505067470848. It has simply been repeated over and over again, without proof, and duplicated on a number of websites. NORTH: Irrefutable for the three things she did, and I defined for you the rule, the actual constitutional language defining treason. There is no doubt these treasonous no-win US wars were meant to disillusion the American nation into accepting loss of sovereignty and one world government." COLMES: She didn't say the words she wanted her to say. Mutual Fund and ETF data provided by Refinitiv Lipper. During the visit she posed for several pictures. You will not be surprised to hear that I have bowdlerised the above considerably, removing racial designators and course expressions of various sorts. She said It is possible it was a setup, I will never know. Also Read: 'Jane Fonda in Five Acts' Film Review: Doc Explores the Many Lives of the Actress-Activist, She posed on an antiaircraft gun used to shoot down our American pilots. True, by Fondas admission. I know what its supposed to be now. If I was Vietnamese, I probably would have tried to do the same thing, you know, but I should not have gone. And I didnt even think and they sang me a song and Im made me laugh. If you continue to use this site we will assume that you are happy with it. Chris Appy, a historian who has written about Vietnam, told HNN he once asked POW Porter Halyburton about the claims made against Fonda. Fifty years later, he bears witness again. She called our president, according to this report, "a new type of Hitler," pilots "war criminals.". Among the products sold expressing veterans' disdain for Fonda are a variety of bumper stickers, envelope stickers, sew-on patches, but evidently D&G no longer carries my favorite Fonda item, a urinal pad depicting Jane Fonda's photograph. So setting aside the issue of whether plastic surgery has anything to do with Vietnam, is Kelly right about Fondas record? Watch "Hannity & Colmes" weeknights at 9 p.m. I will never know. She now hosts "New Day" on CNN. It was the last day of my two week time there. That begs the question, responsible for what? If a prisoner tried to escape, it is quite understandable that he would probably be beaten and tortured., Also Read: How Jane Fonda Explains 'Hanoi Jane': 'Regret to My Dying Day', Even she had to apologize years later for that gun picture True. You know, we can we can scare her, and boy did they try? If I was used, I allowed it to happen. This story hearkens to a real visit to North Vietnam by Jane Fonda in July of 1972, but the stories about betraying POWs is not true. The Fonda trip became unforgettable because it infuriated Americans, especially Americans in uniform, many of whom still regard her as a traitor. He collects a group of American POWs from their septic dungeons, cleans them up, and has them mustered on parade to show his guest how well his embattled nation treats its prisoners. So did Joan Baez and William Sloane Coffin, Noam Chomsky and Pete Seeger, Rennie Davis and Judy Collins. "War Stories," Colonel, we'll be watching this Sunday, 8 p.m. as usual. Imagine its the Battle of the Bulge and Betty Grable is up on top of a German tank saying the Yanks are fighting an evil war. Its not a preposterous analogynot as far as the soldiers involved are concerned. Jane Fonda sparked outrage among war veterans when she was pictured sitting on an anti-aircraft gun in 1972 during the Vietnam War, earning her the nickname Hanoi Jane. If I was Vietnamese, I probably would have tried to do the same thing, you know, but I should not have gone. One presumably claimed to have been struck by her, while another claimed to have had his confidence betrayed to his Communist captors. I said that the POWs claiming torture were liars, hypocrites, and pawns. By denying their mistreatment or not investigating their treatment,in an effort to sway public opinion to her own perceived vision of the national interest, she did harm to her countrymen in captivity. If even one of them were true, it would change the entire focus of my article. Fonda was lambasted for her trip to North Vietnam in 1972 during the Vietnam War. On campus, she was pushing her movement to turn U.S. soldiers into pacifists. Email us. Pleasant Michigan, where Mary Hersberger (Capital University) and Jerry Kembcke (Holy Cross College) both gave papers on Fonda. The story surfaced on the Internet in 1999, and my guess is that it will live there a long time. These men were bombing and strafing and napalming the country, she said. target_type: 'mix' . [2] Peter Collier, The Fondas; A Hollywood Dynasty. Four die; one, Col. Larry Carrigan, survivesjust barely, but it is he who tells about the incident. GRUMMETT: Don't worry about it, you know? Jane Fonda came clean in an interview with Chris Wallace about her Hanoi Jane days and her failure as a mother. In it, she apologizes once again for insulting the men and women who fought in Vietnam. To license content, please contact licenses [at] americanheritage.com. Fonda was accused of engaging in war crimes on behalf of the North Vietnamese. Why? Heres a transcript of her remarks so you can judge for yourself. Fonda consorted with the enemy and made propaganda broadcasts on their behalf. The POWs who were there have denied that this ever occurred. And I didnt even think and they sang me a song and Im made me laugh. Did we lie about the body that we planted on Omaha Beach (search), trying to convince the Germans that we were going to land somewhere else? Please try again later. In July 1972, during the waning days of U.S. military involvement in Vietnam, actress Jane Fonda incurred the enmity of untold thousands of Vietnam veterans and their families (as well as service members for generations to come) when she arrived in Hanoi, North Vietnam, and began a two-week tour of the country. I should have been clearer that my anger back then was at the Nixon Administration. Peter Braunsteins article speculated that Jane Fonda had this ability to a degree unique in modern times. Article 3, section three of the Constitution defines treason as "levying war against the United States or adhering to their enemies or giving them aid and comfort.". One of the times it did, Im happy to say, was with Keith Nolan, the author of several books on the war, most recently Ripcord , a superb account of the 101st Airborne in the conflicts last great battle. To begin with, the title is deliberately misleading: his real point has nothing to do with Jane Fonda. More than 58,000 Americans died in the war.. "Claim: POWs were beaten for refusing to cooperate or meet with Fonda during her visit. I am assured it will be taken care of. She was dubbed "Hanoi Jane" after traveling to the Communist capital. It wasnt firing at the time, and Fonda said in 2011 she hardly even thought about where I was sitting and that it is possible that it was a set up, that the Vietnamese He hadnt liked the story but at least was willing to discuss it. North Vietnam, 1972,: Jane Fonda is in the midst of her visit when an N.V.A. However, since the majority of the stories cited in the e-mail have no proof behind them, I had to either give the e-mail "thumbs down" or "thumbs up" on the basis of the overall validity. And four months later, the bombing stopped of the dikes. "VIET NAM: A repeat scenario was played 10 years later under another banker-picked Democratic administration. At the time, Hanoi Jane was serenaded with a Communist folk song and was led to a weapon that had shot down many American aircraft, and photos were immediately taken. I wanted to tell them what I was seeing as an American on the ground there. She went to tour the countrys dike system, which was rumored to have been intentionally bombed by American forces something the U.S. government to this day forcefully denies. Jane Fonda remains unforgiven. We're going to take them out. Fonda shakes the last hand, then turns to the officer and gives him the fistful of messages. Those words were written by Michael Benge, a civilian advisor captured by the Viet Cong in 1968 and held as a POW for 5 years. How did we get into this war? Many Americans disapproved of Fondas comments CHRIS MacArthur complained that his conduct of the war was compromised by spies within the U.S. government: "The enemy receives my (Pentagon) directives before I do". I sang a song. But when you know why you did something, and youre willing to admit the mistakes that you made, but stand up for the things that you did that that mattered? Hundreds of Americans had gone to North Vietnam, journalists diplomats, our Secretary of State Ramsey Clark, Vietnam veterans, but I said but a movie star hasnt gone and maybe if I go it will draw more attention, and thats what it did. Its going to look like I was trying to shoot down U.S. planes! JANE FONDA: It was a terrible mistake. Kiran Chetry was a Fox News host from 2001 to 2007. True. The great General Douglas MacArthur drove the North Koreans, led by Red Chinese She visited Russia in the early Sixties, and was personally impressed by the deference she received. Halyburton told him that the POW's had tried to debunk them even though they regarded Fonda as an unsympathetic figure. Which goes to reinforce the old adage that no one is truly a waste of skin. Megyn Kelly ended her 12-year run with Fox News in early 2017 in exchange for a weekday show at NBC. Heres how we saw the article we ran: It is a survey of the singular career of a woman who both drove and was driven by many of the largest social concerns of her era, and who came to embody some of them. (Later, after 58,152 American dead were just names on a wall, declassified US Navy logs revealed there had been no torpedo attack!). I find that intolerable.. No article of ours gets hundreds of letters, but this one did, very few of them friendly. And the question I have is 50 years later, how do you look back on that particular chapter? Chiang refused to be extorted, citing his revulsion of the international banking cartel. I suppose that since I am never really planned to be an Intern next semester (not in a full time sense, save as a researcher), and since my term is essentially over, I can join the conversation as Joe Public. It may be an old story, but being that she never stood trial for her actions still make her case an open book. And, as she does, each POW palms her a scrap of paper with his Social Security number written on it. It was my mistake, and I have paid and continue to pay a heavy price for it. Market data provided by Factset. JANE FONDA: It was a terrible mistake. This is not a legal transcript for purposes of litigation. So I feel that well If I did was good, except that I shouldnt have set gone out to a military place. WebDaughter of legendary Henry Fonda, actress, and activist was one of the most outspoken people against the Vietnam War at the age of 34. Liberals in America's streets "protested" our victories and exulted in our defeats - thus, in patriots' eyes, giving the war a raison d'etre. Coffee houses. Troop D, 1st squadron, 4th Cavalry, RVN, 1966-7 OLIVER NORTH, HOST, "WAR STORIES": Actually, she's not really apologizing. You know, I have an organization in Georgia that deals with adolescents, and Ive studied parenting. Fox News has enhanced the careers of numerous women who have served as hosts. But literally working hand-in-hand with the enemy to promote their cause to a worldwide audience was not protected by the First Amendment then just as it is not protected now. The POWs are beaten. It is giving them the advantage of the propaganda visibility that this woman lent to them. No, after the Left's "victory" in the United State's withdrawal from Southeast Asia, the matter of consequences was conveniently dropped from the discussion. And I was I was like a limp noodle what I had experienced and what I had seen, I just I wasnt able to resist, they said were gonna take you out here today. : Yes, that one story was true. A photograph caught her looking through the scope of an anti-aircraft gun, surrounded by revolutionaries. The "New World Order" of the capitalists and the communists is not "Jewish", sir. 1990) Pages 121-123. Good question here Richard: "My question is, when will people like Fonda and Kerry (unlike Joan Baez) take responsibility for what they have wrought -- the totalitarian system that gave us re-education camps and the boat people?" Greta Van Susteren -- who had been one of Ailes' most stalwart defenders -- left in early September 2016 after saying that Fox had "not felt like a home" for years. Since the dawn of the Internet and a spate of anti-Fonda websites, there have been many fabrications and exaggerations regarding her actions, but her photo ops and press conferences to "give aid and comfort to the enemy" are not and never were in question. You know, we can we can scare her, and boy did they try? In her 2005 memoir, My Life So Far, Fonda wrote of the infamous photo this way: Still,for some veterans, no apology from Fonda will ever change their views of her as an adversaryof America and the troops during wartime. I hardly even think about where I am sitting. Her name was Jane Fonda. Shewas active in the Black Panthers and marched for the rights of American Indians, soldiers and working mothers. The day anti-Vietnam War protesters tried to levitate the Pentagon. JANE FONDA: it was a mistake to go, I never wanted to go to any military installations. COLMES: Many of us forgive many of us forgive George W. Bush (search) for being young and irresponsible, and maybe we can also forgive Jane Fonda. Was Jane Fonda's sitting on a North Vietnamese anti-aircraft gun that was used to shoot at and kill Americans, and launching an anti-American PR campaign with the North Vietnamese giving aid and comfort? Screw you. And it was a terrible mistake because of the image that it showed, which was not at all what the reality was. William Burkhead, a Democrat from Anne Arundel, said, I wouldnt want to kill her, but I wouldnt mind if you cut her tongue off, according to a Post story. Here are her comments: Many of our veterans still call her Hanoi Jane thanks to her radio broadcasts, which attempted to shame American troops. officer gets an idea. There's nothing like a historian 'cherry-picking' his citations or only presenting a partial 'truth' from his source. I have great, great children, talented, smart, and I just didnt know how to do it. All rights reserved. Please, you cant let them be published. Fonda told the audience that their protests saddened her. The Nixon Justice Department poured over the transcripts of my broadcasts trying to find a way to put me on trial for treason but they could find none. Fonda hasapologized for the liars and hypocrites statement, which she said she made out of anger that the Nixon Administration was lying about the extent of the POW torture for propaganda purposes. Almost all the messages said we had no business writing about Fonda because she was a traitor. We once published an admiring profile of Benedict Arnoldwhose actions did the nation real damage in a way Fondas fulminations never couldand nobody made a peep. Transcription Copyright 2005 eMediaMillWorks, Inc. (f/k/a Federal Document Clearing House, Inc.), which takes sole responsibility for the accuracy of the transcription. Urban Legends story then identifies the POW and gives some quotes about his treatment by the NVA. Thousands more were on the way, including Ernie Wallace (ph) and Ed Grummett. And the more they tried, the more I. JANE FONDA: I know what Im doing. For 70 years, American Heritage has been the leading magazine of U.S. history, politics, and culture. America. The Ms. , we thought, would signal a bit of ironic distance from the broad, ingenu- ous affection contained in Miss America., It evidently didnt. She claimed she was sexually harassed by correspondent Brian Wilson and later spoke out against Fox News' culture after the Ailes scandal broke. She has said that she regrets doing this. During the photo sessions during her visit to Vietnam, she strongly believed were setups and a grave mistake on her part. It is nothing more and nothing less than the full culmination of Greco-Roman Humanism as it has defined itself throughout the thousands of years. Christopher Andersen, Citizen Jane (New York: Henry Holt and Company. Perhaps most dramatically, in March 1973, the Maryland state legislature held a hearing to have Fonda and her films barred from the state. And the more they tried, the more. Thus, the U.S.A. deliberately betrayed its former ally Chiang Kai-Shek and gave mainland China to communism. I went to a session at the 2003 Peace History Society Conference in Mt. Stunning Black And White Photos of Van Nuys Boulevard In 1972 By Rick McCloskey, Pam Grier: 20 Photos of Beautiful Actress in the 1970s, 30 Photos That Show Fashion Styles Of Young Women In The 1970s, 30 Photos Of Barbi Benton In The 1970s And 80s, Babylonian Map of the World: The Oldest Map of the World, Most Impressive Armours With Attractive And Interesting Designs, Most Impressive Ancient Masks Created By Different Civilizations, Neverwas Haul: Victorian House On Wheels Inspired By Science Fiction Novels, Beachside Bathing Machines of Victorian England, The Evolution Of Women On The Cover Of Esquire Magazine. My question is, when will people like Fonda and Kerry (unlike Joan Baez) take responsibility for what they have wrought -- the totalitarian system that gave us re-education camps and the boat people? Radio broadcasts, which attempted to shame American troops: Fonda did record messages that the North Vietnamese played for Americans to weaken their resolve. Daughter of legendary Henry Fonda, actress, and activist was one of the most outspoken people against the Vietnam War at the age of 34. 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